Comments on: Ai-yi-yi, it’s the Tigers

By: Eric

Eric — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:58:49 +0000

Here’s another perspective on the Ubaldo trade.

Clearly, he’s not what he was last year right now. But you can tell that the stuff is still there. If consistency is a concern, that can be coached and worked on in the off season. I’m not down on him; just realistic that the guy needs work.

But more importantly, I think people overstate the value of White and Pomeranz. How many prospect pitchers actually end up living up to their potential? The answer is very (very) few. The Rockies traded Ubaldo for someone who has a chance, a CHANCE, to be Ubaldo (Pomeranz), and another guy who has a chance to be a #3 starter, maybe an outside chance at #2 (White).

I know deep down we all realize this, but I get the sense that people have mythologized White and Pomeranz to the point where they were sure-fire 1-2 starters, holding down the rotation. Even if they make it to the big leagues and stick in a rotation, there’s only a small chance they’ll have the dominant stuff Ubaldo has when he’s on. This is just based on history.

Toss in the club-friendly contract and I think it was a great deal. Just my two cents.

By: Vern Morrison

Vern Morrison — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:21:36 +0000

Scott, thanks for the kind words. As far as I’m concerned, this blog belongs to Susan and Stephanie. I’m just one of the utility infielders.

Here’s the post Stephanie wrote introducing me to IPL readers: http://itspronouncedlajaway.com/?p=554

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:10:48 +0000

Vern,
You’ve had quite a few pretty good recent posts. When are you gonna get listed on the “about us?” page?

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It's pronounced "Lajaway" » Blog Archive » Mr. Fister — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:20:14 +0000

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By: Chip P

Chip P — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:49:56 +0000

I wouldn’t necessarily call myself a Ubaldo defender. There are times where he’s looked downright terrible and other times where he’s looked downright dominant. It’s the consistency that is definitely a concern. No need for Tribe fans to keep complaining about the trade. It happened and it has had no effect on this season (except we added an experienced, former Cy Young winner in Ubaldo Jiminez).

In other news, Alex White’s totals over his last three starts w/ COL: 17 IP, 14 ER, 19 H, 10 BB, 13 K.

(BTW, this isn’t justification, just simply providing an update on Alex White).

Fans want to point a finger at someone/something for not winning the division this year and everyone seems to complain and point fingers at Ubaldo and Carmona. The problem has not been these guys – it’s simply a team plagued w/ injuries and inability to generate runs.

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:38:56 +0000

It was a good run; The Tribe was never expected to contend for anything but the bottom of a weak division this year. And the good thing about all these injuries is that they get a chance to evaluate the up and coming talent and get some experience earlier than expected. Yeah, I’m disappointed they have fallen out of the race, but this was never supposed to be the year anyways. Hopefully they can figure out what to keep, who to let go, and add a player or 2 and be in the hunt again next year.

I’m still up in the air about Ubaldo. He’s still signed, and can be a dominant pitcher at times, so I don’t think we can write it up as a loss yet; it’s not like he was a 2 month rental who will leave for greener pastures immediately, but yeah, he didn’t have the impact we all had hoped.

Keep plugging away, who knows, maybe DET hits a wall or something, we still have 5 games left against them.

By: Jerry

Jerry — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:37:55 +0000

I say seeya to Sizemore and Hafner and take a run at Fielder. Indians motto should be ” Providing heartache and disappointmnet since 1949″

By: SeattleStu

SeattleStu — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:26:54 +0000

good news gang…..$14 million man travis hafner is rumored to be ready to jog this week….because goodness knows he does a lot of running from that action-packed DH position….

By: SeattleStu

SeattleStu — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:08:10 +0000

to chipper and other U defenders…is this acceptable to u?…mayme u can remind me what we gave up for a guy who’s ERA is 1 above the average pitcher?

Jimenez is 2-2 with a 5.27 ERA in seven starts since being acquired from Colorado. Fister is 4-1 with a 2.64 ERA in seven starts since being acquired from Seattle.

By: SeattleStu

SeattleStu — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:35:03 +0000

not a bad line….but we needed a shutdown today and that ball up to V-Mart was a joke…you could have hit that out, chipper…and yes, the bats are the issue today, agreed….jiminez settled down and kept us in it….see last post