Comments on: Asdrubal Cabrera: Keep Him or Ship Him?

By: Portland Reign

Portland Reign — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:29:13 +0000

They will not contend with Jackson and/or Swisher. The Tribe doesn’t have enough money to sign both players this winter and my hope is that they don’t sign either. Jackson is not worth what he wants at 4 years, 44 million. If we can trade AC, lets say to the Mariners, who are loaded with pitching talent in the minors, then we have a shot at something. Until we start getting a decent pitching staff, we are going nowhere. Develop and build from within. We have already started, why go out and sign average players to a huge burden of a contract?

By: Portland Reign

Portland Reign — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:21:17 +0000

We are at least two-three years away from taking the top spot from the Tigers in the Central. If that is the thinking by the front office then there is no reason to keep AC. If you don’t find a suitor with the right package, you wait and trade him at the deadline. If there is nothing at the deadline, there is always next year. But they need to trade him. He always has a great first half so he should be extremely marketable. The hope is that Lindor is ready in two, until then Aviles is always a decent fill at short.

By: Drew

Drew — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:33:31 +0000

You missed where I corrected myself. Stubbs’ offense is a downgrade in CF over that of Brantley. I am making the comparison purely at a position by position level. LF is vastly improved, while CF and RF are downgraded by the trade. A Swisher signing would fill the RF gap but the DH gap still remains. I am very nervous about the rotation and have no delusions to believe that anyone other than Masterson and Bauer have a chance at a sub .400 ERA. If you cannot count on your starter to give you a quality start, then the team sans Choo will be in line for a sub .500 season and likely 4th place in the AL Central.

I like Swisher, mainly because I share an alma mater with him. But his expense doesn’t assure me that he is that much better than a Russ Canzler or Thomas Neal who can be had for 1/32 of the cost. Sure Swisher is worth an average WAR of 2.0. 2 games is a lot to a team expected to win 88 games but to a team that will likely finish with 70, does it really make sense? I know he would come in a 4 or 5 year deal where he would be 36 or 37 at its conclusion, but the Indians would have 4 seasons to make this one work.

By: adam

adam — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 05:12:54 +0000

Since we are rebuilding i might trade Acab for a good starter and a couple promising prospects

By: Steve Alex

Steve Alex — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:34:27 +0000

It’s not fair to judge Antonetti in hindsight by what a prospect does or doesn’t do in the future, because you never know for sure that even the best prospect will develop. You have to judge it right now based on known facts. Most people seem to think Choo for Bauer was a good to great trade for the Indians. Jimenez was already in steep decline when we traded for him. Jason Knapp was already hurt when we traded for him. Antonetti deserved criticism for those trades at the time they were made because those players’ failures were expected or at least foreseeable. I am a little concerned that AZ would give up on Bauer so quickly, but there doesn’t seem to be a physical reason for it, just a philosophical one.

By: adam

adam — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 02:21:11 +0000

Someone said and i quote >>>> But in that same vein, Stubbs’ offense is a downgrade from Brantley in LF …….This makes no sense because your not losing Brantley’s bat and your gaining better defence in Stubbs over Cunningham/Damon/Duncan whose offence/defence sucked terribly……As far as holes the only thing they need to do is get another good right handed hitter and 1 or 2 good starting pitchers….The rest of the team is looking great….They have the best 7th and 8th inning pitchers in the game and even though Chris Perez has a big mouth he is a prety dam good closer….. If we can get our starting pitching in order the Indians are going to be a tough team to beat an as far as trading Asdrubal Cabrera i would not do it because he is a great clutch hitter and i don’t want to lose that….I would bat him 3rd or 5th in the lineup

By: S C Cleveland fan

S C Cleveland fan — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:21:14 +0000

Lets not jump so quickly to give Antonetti a pass on this trade yet! I’m still wandering why the diamondbacks gave up on Bauer so quickly? He could turn into another Jiminez or worse. Lets wait and see what happens down the line awhile and what else the Tribe does in the FA market and trade wise before spring training!!

By: Tribefan1968

Tribefan1968 — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:19:10 +0000

If the Indians sign someone like Edwin Jackson as a starter and Swisher or Ross as right fielder, then they should keep Cabrera. If they don’t contend, then they can always move him at trade deadline. If an outfield or starting pitcher hole remains open, then they will probably trade him this off-season.

By: SeattleStu

SeattleStu — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:34:22 +0000

the only kool-aid i’m drinking is the jonestown variety to avoid watching another season like the last few years….folks, get ahold of yourselves….nothing has fundamentally changed.

By: Swift

Swift — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:46:22 +0000

No, no Kool-Aid for me thanks. I’m in a wait and see mode. As others have said, there is a lot of stikeouts coming up(given the Indians, probably with the bases loaded) and there is still a lot of holes, particularly in the pitching staff. I suspect they will be better, but that’s not saying much.

As far as ACab, it completely depends on what you can get for him. I have no problem seeing him stay; I don’t want to see him traded in a bad trade, just for the point of doing “something”.