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		<title>By: Coaching Staff Death Watch Part 1 &#8211; Scott Radinsky is Fired &#171; It&#039;s Pronounced &#34;Lajaway&#34;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coaching Staff Death Watch Part 1 &#8211; Scott Radinsky is Fired &#171; It&#039;s Pronounced &#34;Lajaway&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the other day when I said that I didn&#8217;t really care who was fired at this point, as long as their name was not Sandy Alomar, Jr.?  That I was secretly hoping people would start [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the other day when I said that I didn&#8217;t really care who was fired at this point, as long as their name was not Sandy Alomar, Jr.?  That I was secretly hoping people would start [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy cronig</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy cronig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is shrinking but that&#039;s besides the point. Detroits owner owns the pistons, red wings and the tigers. And he dumps a ton of money on the tigers. That would be wonderful to have that type of owner its very rare]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is shrinking but that&#8217;s besides the point. Detroits owner owns the pistons, red wings and the tigers. And he dumps a ton of money on the tigers. That would be wonderful to have that type of owner its very rare</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great link, thank you. Is this one of those times when I should put my foot in my mouth? 

I guess I am comparing Cleveland in size to my current city, Richmond, VA, and think that is significantly larger. By further review of link, I noticed that only two cities with MLB teams have lower population-bases than Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee. Coincidentally, both of those teams spend significantly more in payroll than the Indians do. 

But then again, don&#039;t residents of Akron and Canton identify more with Cleveland than any other major metropolitan-area? If so, that adds another 1M people and then what do you do with Columbus? It&#039;s pretty split between Cleveland and Cincinnati fans. 

But anyway, I thought I read that the Cleveland-metro area actually increased in the last census compared to decades of declines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great link, thank you. Is this one of those times when I should put my foot in my mouth? </p>
<p>I guess I am comparing Cleveland in size to my current city, Richmond, VA, and think that is significantly larger. By further review of link, I noticed that only two cities with MLB teams have lower population-bases than Cleveland, Detroit and Milwaukee. Coincidentally, both of those teams spend significantly more in payroll than the Indians do. </p>
<p>But then again, don&#8217;t residents of Akron and Canton identify more with Cleveland than any other major metropolitan-area? If so, that adds another 1M people and then what do you do with Columbus? It&#8217;s pretty split between Cleveland and Cincinnati fans. </p>
<p>But anyway, I thought I read that the Cleveland-metro area actually increased in the last census compared to decades of declines.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy C</title>
		<link>http://itspronouncedlajaway.com/?p=5735#comment-5163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 2011 the Milken Institute ranked the &quot;best preforming&quot; cities. for the cities you mentioned:
http://bestcities.milkeninstitute.org/
Seattle-23rd
Cincy-138th
Minneapolis-143rd 
Milwaukee-123rd

And Cleveland a beautiful 176th in the country  

Tada! We are definately a small market team. It has nothing to do with size and trust me Cleveland is shrinking. It has to do with the economy of the city]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2011 the Milken Institute ranked the &#8220;best preforming&#8221; cities. for the cities you mentioned:<br />
<a href="http://bestcities.milkeninstitute.org/" rel="nofollow">http://bestcities.milkeninstitute.org/</a><br />
Seattle-23rd<br />
Cincy-138th<br />
Minneapolis-143rd<br />
Milwaukee-123rd</p>
<p>And Cleveland a beautiful 176th in the country  </p>
<p>Tada! We are definately a small market team. It has nothing to do with size and trust me Cleveland is shrinking. It has to do with the economy of the city</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I grew up in Cleveland and thus an Indians fan. I live in a small city on the east coast without a major league baseball team but I do still have family in the region and remain loyal to several Ohio-sports teams. 

However, Jeremy, would you please validate your comment, &quot;of course they are a small market team&quot;. As I pointed out, did the size of Cleveland prevent the team from spending money and fielding a successful team in the 1990s? The Minnesota Twins, Cincinnati Reds, Seattle Mariners, and Milwaukee Brewers all have payrolls greater than that of the Indians. Can you actually tell me that any of those cities are significantly larger in size than Cleveland? Please show me the metrics!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in Cleveland and thus an Indians fan. I live in a small city on the east coast without a major league baseball team but I do still have family in the region and remain loyal to several Ohio-sports teams. </p>
<p>However, Jeremy, would you please validate your comment, &#8220;of course they are a small market team&#8221;. As I pointed out, did the size of Cleveland prevent the team from spending money and fielding a successful team in the 1990s? The Minnesota Twins, Cincinnati Reds, Seattle Mariners, and Milwaukee Brewers all have payrolls greater than that of the Indians. Can you actually tell me that any of those cities are significantly larger in size than Cleveland? Please show me the metrics!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 03:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Drew of course the indians are a small market team. Do you live in Cleveland or do you just not go outside or read a paper? And great article Stephanie. I was at both of Perez&#039;s blown saves and this kinda sums up the feelings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew of course the indians are a small market team. Do you live in Cleveland or do you just not go outside or read a paper? And great article Stephanie. I was at both of Perez&#8217;s blown saves and this kinda sums up the feelings</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 01:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, where did you find  those numbers?  The reference I have always used is Cot&#039;s Baseball Contracts, now part of of BaseballProspectus.com.  They show the current years&#039; payrolls for the Reds at $87,826,167 and the Tribe at $65,430,300.  That over $22 million difference as opposed to the $4 million of yours.  Just think of how many more crappy players our FO could acquire for that $22M!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, where did you find  those numbers?  The reference I have always used is Cot&#8217;s Baseball Contracts, now part of of BaseballProspectus.com.  They show the current years&#8217; payrolls for the Reds at $87,826,167 and the Tribe at $65,430,300.  That over $22 million difference as opposed to the $4 million of yours.  Just think of how many more crappy players our FO could acquire for that $22M!</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 01:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there ever was a time for a wide-scale institutional change, this is it. This small-market team BS is killing me. Wasn&#039;t Cleveland a small market in the 1990s? Their payroll was $65M this season. Milwaukee has a $98M payroll and there is no way you could convince me that Milwaukee is a bigger market than Cleveland. 

Ohio is the 7th largest state in population and has 2 baseball teams.  Each of the top 6 have at least 2 as well. 

With Hafner, Sizemore, &amp; Lowe coming off the books in 2013, to the tune of $20M, they could re-sign Choo, get a LF (that is if you believe that Tim Fedroff or Jared Goedert cannot pull off a Will Middlebrooks-like performance), and legit starting pitcher and stay under  $100M. Keeping a $100M payroll and locking down players like Choo will put at least 30k people in the stands.

Furthermore, I just looked up and saw that the Indians have an average ticket price of about $25. This team is drawing an average attendance of 21,000 fans a game, the worst in MLB. That equates to about $42M in ticket revenue projected for this season. Capacity is 42,000 at Progressive Field. They could easily increase average attendance by 10-15,000 by actually making a move this winter on a LF, DH, 1B, or SP. Furthermore, by making such a move, the additional attendance will increase ticket revenues by $20-30M a year (Cole Hamels just signed for $24M a year), and that&#039;s just ticket revenue. What if those fans also purchased concessions and merchandise or for heaven&#039;s sake watched more games on STO thus increasing the advertising revenue? 

So here is how I see it:
1) Sign a legit starting pitcher at $20M a year. 
2) Sign Choo at $15M a year. (+10M from where he is now)
3) Sign a LF for $10M a year.
I just added $40M to payroll and $20M is coming off the books. That&#039;s an additional $20M over this season&#039;s payroll thus bringing the Indians to $85M in 2013. They did sign Cabrerra and Santana to extensions, and I think there are some other players who are arbitration eligible which will push the payroll to $100M, but that&#039;s a good figure now-a-days. 

Keep in mind that selling out Progressive Field alone would nearly cover a $100M payroll. And there are still plenty of other revenue sources that may more than double ticket sales. 

So seriously, the only rationale that I can fathom for why the Indians are so cheap is that they have projected cash flow problems. And as you know, the Dodgers nearly went bankrupt last season yet still sold this year for $2B and are a 1/2 game out of the lead in the NL west.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there ever was a time for a wide-scale institutional change, this is it. This small-market team BS is killing me. Wasn&#8217;t Cleveland a small market in the 1990s? Their payroll was $65M this season. Milwaukee has a $98M payroll and there is no way you could convince me that Milwaukee is a bigger market than Cleveland. </p>
<p>Ohio is the 7th largest state in population and has 2 baseball teams.  Each of the top 6 have at least 2 as well. </p>
<p>With Hafner, Sizemore, &amp; Lowe coming off the books in 2013, to the tune of $20M, they could re-sign Choo, get a LF (that is if you believe that Tim Fedroff or Jared Goedert cannot pull off a Will Middlebrooks-like performance), and legit starting pitcher and stay under  $100M. Keeping a $100M payroll and locking down players like Choo will put at least 30k people in the stands.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I just looked up and saw that the Indians have an average ticket price of about $25. This team is drawing an average attendance of 21,000 fans a game, the worst in MLB. That equates to about $42M in ticket revenue projected for this season. Capacity is 42,000 at Progressive Field. They could easily increase average attendance by 10-15,000 by actually making a move this winter on a LF, DH, 1B, or SP. Furthermore, by making such a move, the additional attendance will increase ticket revenues by $20-30M a year (Cole Hamels just signed for $24M a year), and that&#8217;s just ticket revenue. What if those fans also purchased concessions and merchandise or for heaven&#8217;s sake watched more games on STO thus increasing the advertising revenue? </p>
<p>So here is how I see it:<br />
1) Sign a legit starting pitcher at $20M a year.<br />
2) Sign Choo at $15M a year. (+10M from where he is now)<br />
3) Sign a LF for $10M a year.<br />
I just added $40M to payroll and $20M is coming off the books. That&#8217;s an additional $20M over this season&#8217;s payroll thus bringing the Indians to $85M in 2013. They did sign Cabrerra and Santana to extensions, and I think there are some other players who are arbitration eligible which will push the payroll to $100M, but that&#8217;s a good figure now-a-days. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that selling out Progressive Field alone would nearly cover a $100M payroll. And there are still plenty of other revenue sources that may more than double ticket sales. </p>
<p>So seriously, the only rationale that I can fathom for why the Indians are so cheap is that they have projected cash flow problems. And as you know, the Dodgers nearly went bankrupt last season yet still sold this year for $2B and are a 1/2 game out of the lead in the NL west.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would be reluctant to fire all the staff save Alomar, and then turn around and make him manager.  Not because I think he won&#039;t be a good manager but because I DO think he will be someday.  Why saddle him with the current  roster?  IMO there are just a couple guys worthy of playing on a ML field and until that is improved the manager has his hands tied.  No sense in making Sandy look like he&#039;s incompetent and stain his career because he doesn&#039;t have a team that would win no matter who managed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be reluctant to fire all the staff save Alomar, and then turn around and make him manager.  Not because I think he won&#8217;t be a good manager but because I DO think he will be someday.  Why saddle him with the current  roster?  IMO there are just a couple guys worthy of playing on a ML field and until that is improved the manager has his hands tied.  No sense in making Sandy look like he&#8217;s incompetent and stain his career because he doesn&#8217;t have a team that would win no matter who managed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...there are teams that manage to put a great product on the field every year on a minimal budget.&quot;   Agree and you don&#039;t have to look very far to find one right here in the state of Ohio.  The Reds payroll is around $82M vs $78M for the Indians.  At the same time the Tribe tanked, the Reds took off!  They have picked our pocket several times over the years (Brandon Phillips for Jeff Stephens; Danny Graves for John Smiley, etc.).  They somehow always manage to have decent starting pitching pursuing Matt Latos, for example, this past off-season.  Can we learn something from our fellow Buckeye franchise?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;there are teams that manage to put a great product on the field every year on a minimal budget.&#8221;   Agree and you don&#8217;t have to look very far to find one right here in the state of Ohio.  The Reds payroll is around $82M vs $78M for the Indians.  At the same time the Tribe tanked, the Reds took off!  They have picked our pocket several times over the years (Brandon Phillips for Jeff Stephens; Danny Graves for John Smiley, etc.).  They somehow always manage to have decent starting pitching pursuing Matt Latos, for example, this past off-season.  Can we learn something from our fellow Buckeye franchise?</p>
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